Ep. 18 - Eliminating Human Errors w/ Patrick Thomas
Download MP3 What if AI-powered security could eliminate human errors in cybersecurity? Meet the founder making it happen.
In this episode of Hackers to Founders, I sit down with Patrick Ben Thomas, the founder of NullZec and its advanced malware development division, Shadow Mask. Patrick shares his journey from early cybersecurity research to building a solution designed to eliminate human errors and prevent malware from spreading. We discuss how his team integrates sandboxing, zero-trust architecture, and in-house malware analysis to isolate and detect threats before they reach end users. He also dives into the offensive research behind Shadow Mask, where they develop real-world exploits to strengthen defenses. Tune in to learn how Patrick is blending adversary simulation with next-gen defense strategies to reshape cybersecurity.
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In this episode of Hackers to Founders, I sit down with Patrick Ben Thomas, the founder of NullZec and its advanced malware development division, Shadow Mask. Patrick shares his journey from early cybersecurity research to building a solution designed to eliminate human errors and prevent malware from spreading. We discuss how his team integrates sandboxing, zero-trust architecture, and in-house malware analysis to isolate and detect threats before they reach end users. He also dives into the offensive research behind Shadow Mask, where they develop real-world exploits to strengthen defenses. Tune in to learn how Patrick is blending adversary simulation with next-gen defense strategies to reshape cybersecurity.
People
- Patrick Ben Thomas (Guest, Founder of NullZec & Shadow Mask)
- Kevin Mitnick (Famous hacker, cybersecurity expert)
Companies & Organizations
- NullZec (Parent company founded by Patrick Ben Thomas)
- Shadow Mask (Malware development & adversary simulation division under NullSec)
Products & Technologies
- HackRF (Software-defined radio device used for security research)
- BladeRF (Full-duplex SDR used for radio frequency security research)
- Proxmark 3 (RFID/NFC security tool for cloning and emulation)
- Flipper Zero (Multi-tool for hardware and RF hacking)
- NFC Kill (Device used to destroy NFC-enabled cards by electromagnetic pulse)
Cybersecurity Events & Conferences
- DEFCON (Hacker conference)
- Black Hat (Cybersecurity conference)
- BSides (Security conference, mentioned as besides)
- RSA Conference (Cybersecurity event)
Cybersecurity Services & Platforms
- VirusTotal (Malware analysis service, mentioned as insufficient for zero-day threats)
Creators and Guests

Host
Chris Magistrado
Host of @HackerToFounderOwner of @TopClearedRecSecurity Researcher. Defcon is fun. CCCamp is a trip.
